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19 April 2021 Advisory Refuse Fascism podcast with Matthew Rozsa:The Parallels Between Trump’s “Big Lie” and Hitler’sRefuseFascism.org produces a weekly podcast featuring commentary on the latest events and interviews with major thinkers from many different perspectives who are sounding the alarm on the continuing danger of American fascism. This week, Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) interviews Matthew Rozsa (@MatthewRozsa) about his recent article for Salon.com: Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this How America’s Slide into Totalitarianism Begins? |
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Matthew Rozsa: “Trump is pulling a Hitler. He is telling a big lie. There is not a shred of evidence that Biden’s victory was illegitimate, just as there wasn’t a shred of evidence that Germany was stabbed in the back during World War I. And it is the fact that there is literally no evidence, so the people making these claims have to lie wholesale, fabricate entire narratives and bodies of evidence just to promote a complete fiction. Their agenda, the reason they’re doing it is so that they can oppress marginalized groups.” “The 2020 election really is an area where you can just look at every other president who has lost an election and say they didn’t do this, but Trump did. That’s why I focus on this one so much, because it’s indisputable, there’s no arguing that one of Trump’s ten predecessors who lost an election did the same thing. They didn’t.” Sam Goldman: “The overwhelming majority of Trump voters, a population numbering over 74 million people actually believe that conspiracy theory driven lie that this election was stolen from Trump and that this lie centers on supposed voter fraud concentrated in urban heavily Black populated areas. Not only are these people completely inoculated against any facts or evidence that contradicts that. In any other fascist lie, Trump might have told them or may continue to tell them, they are convinced to their core that Trump was betrayed and victimized by institutions, laws and norms of government that obstructed his fascist coup, even after the deadly storming of the Capitol.” *** RefuseFascism.org was initiated on an emergency basis in the wake of the election of Donald Trump in 2016. Recognizing the fascist character and danger of the looming Trump/Pence Regime, we issued a “Call to Action” which began: “NO! In the Name of Humanity – We REFUSE to Accept a Fascist America! A virulent fascist movement both in and out of government is still working to re-seize power and consolidate a different form of rule built on white supremacy, misogyny and xenophobia, relying on overt terror and violence. Once in power fascism essentially eliminates traditional democratic rights. Preventing this remains our urgent mission. The podcast is also available on Youtube. — 30 — |