Lessons of Kristallnacht, “Civil War,” and Mass Deportation

As we enter the final month before the November 2024 presidential election, Sam recaps recent developments including Jack Smith’s recent court filing detailing the 2020 Trump coup attempt, the fascist disinformation campaign that is actively harming people in need of help and accurate information in the wake of Hurricane Helene while somehow blaming Democrats and more than anything, immigrants, for this climate-fueled destruction, and of course the “eyeliner on a pig” fascism on display during the Walz/Vance debate.

These recent developments set the stage for another heavy conversation about the parallels between Trump’s rhetoric and the broader fascist movements plans for mass deportation and “one really violent hour” to Kristallnacht, the Nazi-led pogrom that marked a key turning point in the Holocaust. To discuss this she speaks with Zoltán Grossman, author of Lessons of Kristallnacht, “Civil War,” and Mass Deportation. Dr. Grossman is Professor of Geography and Native American and Indigenous Studies, The Evergreen State College, Olympia, Washington. Read more of his work at sites.evergreen.edu/zoltan.

Mentioned in this episode:

• As election threats rise, Justice Dept. says its options are limited
• Trump, The Purge, Black Nazis and the Language of Apocalyptic Lies and Violence

Relevant Episodes:

• Combatting Disinformation
• Chaos Comes Calling with Sasha Abramsky
• Fascist Riots in the UK, Fascist Plots in the US

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